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Tonight
The State of The Secure-Scuttlebot Conservancy
keeping the dream alive
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Everett Bogue
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what is secure-scuttlebot?
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Phoenix
early Secure-Scuttlebot web client by Paul Frazee, circa 2014-2015
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what is the ssb conservancy?
established after the failed mutiny at the Secure-Scuttlebot Consortium of 2025
- preserve SSB in its original form for educational purposes
- modernize Node dependencies
- pilot coding agents as open source maintainers
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| * |
SSB
|
ActivityPub
|
ANProto
|
ATProto
|
Nostr
|
Farcaster
|
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Created | 2015 (2012 as scuttlebutt) | 2016 (2012 as pump.io) | 2019 (as bog v1) | 2019 (as smor-serve) | 2020 | 2020 |
| Creators | Dominic Tarr + Paul Frazee | Evan Prodromou + Christine Lemmer-Webber | Everett Bogue | Jay Graber + Paul Frazee | Fiatjaf | Dan Romero + Varun Srinivasan |
| #1 App | Patchbay | Mastodon | Wiredove | Bluesky | Primal | Base |
| Jack Dorsey? | No | No | Coming 2027? | Quit | Funded | No |
| Keys | ed25519 | none | ed25519 | secp256k1 | secp256k1 | ed25519 |
| Identity | self-id | username | self-id | directory | self-id | eth-id |
| Data model | append-only | json-ld | hashchain | repo | flat | flat |
| Message security | userkeys | none | userkeys | serverkeys | userkeys | userkeys |
| Strategy | gossip | federation | replication | aggregation | relays | hubs |
| Architecture | distributed | decentralized | distributed | decentralized (?) | decentralized | decentralized |
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| * |
SSB
|
ActivityPub
|
ANProto
|
ATProto
|
Nostr
|
Farcaster
|
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Created | 2015 (2012 as scuttlebutt) | 2016 (2012 as pump.io) | 2019 (as bog v1) | 2019 (as smor-serve) | 2020 | 2020 |
| Creators | Dominic Tarr + Paul Frazee | Evan Prodromou + Christine Lemmer-Webber | Everett Bogue | Jay Graber + Paul Frazee | Fiatjaf | Dan Romero + Varun Srinivasan |
| #1 App | Patchbay | Mastodon | Wiredove | Bluesky | Primal | Base |
| Jack Dorsey? | No | No | Coming 2027? | Quit | Funded | No |
| Keys | ed25519 | none | ed25519 | secp256k1 | secp256k1 | ed25519 |
| Identity | self-id | username | self-id | directory | self-id | eth-id |
| Data model | append-only | json-ld | hashchain | repo | flat | flat |
| Message security | userkeys | none | userkeys | serverkeys | userkeys | userkeys |
| Strategy | gossip | federation | replication | aggregation | relays | hubs |
| Architecture | distributed | decentralized | distributed | decentralized (?) | decentralized | decentralized |
BACKBURNERED
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| * |
SSB
|
ActivityPub
|
ANProto
|
ATProto
|
Nostr
|
Farcaster
|
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Created | 2015 (2012 as scuttlebutt) | 2016 (2012 as pump.io) | 2019 (as bog v1) | 2019 (as smor-serve) | 2020 | 2020 |
| Creators | Dominic Tarr + Paul Frazee | Evan Prodromou + Christine Lemmer-Webber | Everett Bogue | Jay Graber + Paul Frazee | Fiatjaf | Dan Romero + Varun Srinivasan |
| #1 App | Patchbay | Mastodon | Wiredove | Bluesky | Primal | Base |
| Jack Dorsey? | No | No | Coming 2027? | Quit | Funded | No |
| Keys | ed25519 | none | ed25519 | secp256k1 | secp256k1 | ed25519 |
| Identity | self-id | username | self-id | directory | self-id | eth-id |
| Data model | append-only | json-ld | hashchain | repo | flat | flat |
| Message security | userkeys | none | userkeys | serverkeys | userkeys | userkeys |
| Strategy | gossip | federation | replication | aggregation | relays | hubs |
| Architecture | distributed | decentralized | distributed | decentralized (?) | decentralized | decentralized |
BACKBURNERED
INSECURE
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| * |
SSB
|
ActivityPub
|
ANProto
|
ATProto
|
Nostr
|
Farcaster
|
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Created | 2015 (2012 as scuttlebutt) | 2016 (2012 as pump.io) | 2019 (as bog v1) | 2019 (as smor-serve) | 2020 | 2020 |
| Creators | Dominic Tarr + Paul Frazee | Evan Prodromou + Christine Lemmer-Webber | Everett Bogue | Jay Graber + Paul Frazee | Fiatjaf | Dan Romero + Varun Srinivasan |
| #1 App | Patchbay | Mastodon | Wiredove | Bluesky | Primal | Base |
| Jack Dorsey? | No | No | Coming 2027? | Quit | Funded | No |
| Keys | ed25519 | none | ed25519 | secp256k1 | secp256k1 | ed25519 |
| Identity | self-id | username | self-id | directory | self-id | eth-id |
| Data model | append-only | json-ld | hashchain | repo | flat | flat |
| Message security | userkeys | none | userkeys | serverkeys | userkeys | userkeys |
| Strategy | gossip | federation | replication | aggregation | relays | hubs |
| Architecture | distributed | decentralized | distributed | decentralized (?) | decentralized | decentralized |
BACKBURNERED
INSECURE
Bitcoiners, YUCK!
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Source: arewedecentralizedyet.online by Rob Ricci
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what each does better
| Secure-Scuttlebot | ATProto |
|---|---|
| Local-first identity: your key signs your feed. | Human-readable handles and portable DID identity. |
| Append-only logs that survive across peers. | Fast global discovery through relays and appviews. |
| Peer gossip: no global appview required. | Cleaner developer surface: lexicons, records, schemas. |
| Offline-shaped, personal-computer-shaped social data. | Moderation and onboarding that regular people can use. |
| Harder to kill when servers disappear. | Easier to explain, index, search, and scale. |
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Local instance
Remote instance
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